1.03 Is Goa India’s biggest creative hub? with Vince Costa of GetCreativeGoa

Goa has always been the centre of creativity, according to Vince Costa. He is creating a community of Goans who are leading the wave of content creation: from music to films, painting to photography. Is India finally taking artists seriously? Do creators need professional management to become influencers? Why are all the creative people moving to Goa? Tune in to find out! 

Vince Costa is a filmmaker, musician, photographer and the founder of Get Creative Goa. His film Saxtticho Koddo won the Best Short Documentary at Asia Independent Festival.

Travel tip: Plan your next trip around one of the many arts and culture festivals that take place in Goa! Our top choices are the International Film Festival of India which has been organized in Goa for 70 years now and the Serendipity Arts Festival which takes place in late December. 

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Hosted by Clyde D’Souza. He is a creative director who has worked in TV, print, and digital. His book Susegad: The Goan Art Of Contentment captures Goa through conversations, memories, stories, recipes and much more. He lives between Mumbai and Goa and lives the Susegad lifestyle every day! Follow him on Instagram @clydedsouzaauthor. 

Produced by Aishwarya Javalgekar

Editing and soundtrack by Aditya Arya

Artwork by Artisto Designz

Brought to you by Bound, a company that helps you grow through stories. Follow us @boundindia on all social platforms for updates on this podcast or take a look at their other podcasts.

Hosted by Clyde D’Souza. He is a creative director who has worked in TV, print, and digital. His book Susegad: The Goan Art Of Contentment captures Goa through conversations, memories, stories, recipes and much more. He lives between Mumbai and Goa and lives the Susegad lifestyle every day! Follow him on Instagram @clydedsouzaauthor.

Transcript

Clyde D'Souza  00:23

Hello and welcome to say God stories from Guam. I'm your host Clyde de Souza. I'm a three time published author, media professional and ago and who loves everything about Guam. My latest book is called to say God, the golden out of contentment. In my podcast, I chat with some famous and some of my favorite goals. And together we explore go beyond the speeches from Fany to follow Casa to cashews, come discover go like you've never done before. You think of GWA you think of lovely lush greens and blue sky beaches. You think of digital detox, throwing your phone away and an offline vacation. That's if you're a tourist. And that's all great. But there's a generation of local governments who are now leading the wave of content creation, from music to films painting to photography, guys going from tourist paradise to a creative heaven, a state that now offers the best place to work and also live. On today's episode. I'm really happy. And we're going to hear the story of Vince Costa, who is helping to create a network for the creative community of guns in Guam. My guest, Vince Costa is a filmmaker, musician, photographer and the founder of get creative GWA. His film shots teacher chordal won the best short film documentary at Asia independent festival. That's a lot of hats. Whence Welcome to the sociedades stories podcast.

02:03

Thank you, Clyde. I'm really happy to be here.

Clyde D'Souza  02:05

It's amazing, so many different things that you do. It's we'll get into all of them. Can you tell us the audience where you're talking to us from in Goa and your surroundings a bit if you can?

Vince Costa  02:15

Absolutely. So, basically, I based in the south of Goa in a tiny little village about 10 kilometers from our town called Kotori, which is traditionally called Shashi Takada, which is the the rice bowl of of salsa. And the surrounding here is pretty much, you know, evident in terms of its environment. It's a valley so rice fields, hills, we've got a few water bodies like lakes. And we are we are right on the border of the rivers worry. So it's really quite a beautiful, beautiful landscape. We get visited by migratory birds at this time of the year. So we've got a lot of birds. And yeah, we are blessed with with a lot of biodiversity. In fact, this is the first village to have its declaration of biodiversity and go off. So we already have our own local biodiversity board.

Clyde D'Souza  03:10

Oh, wow. That's amazing. I mean, it Yeah, it sounds authentic. And I mean, I've seen the film and yeah, I think it does justice to everything that you just mentioned. Yeah. And cordeaux means, like a go down, right. In company.

03:24

Well, Kado is, it's like imagine a silo, basically like a storage space. Yeah. Yeah. And

Clyde D'Souza  03:31

Shashi comes from the word salad set. Right. Which is, which is a place in South Korea, right? I mean, a district, right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow, great. Okay, so like we said, in your intro, you're everything, so many different things, photographer, musician, filmmaker, and now the creator of get creative GWA. So as such a multi creative person, what do you define creativity. As,

03:51

for me, creativity, really is something that, for me, it's a spontaneous act of expression, an idea or concept, a thought, and then kind of then collaborating with people to take it forward?

Clyde D'Souza  04:06

Yeah, well said, I think one of the things that I also agree with and for me, as well, as someone who writes and I've also just started doodling on my Instagram and everything. I think there are two things that you mentioned. One is expression. For me. The other thing that I think about creativity is also you know, communicating a feeling, because whenever we put down an idea, it will always make someone feel something. Right.

04:25

I think also, we put it down because we are feeling something if we weren't feeling it, we wouldn't really care to put it down. Eventually, the person that is on the receiving end is going to sort of feel what we're feeling in that moment. It's that emotional context that that creates the environment for the listener for the reader for the for the person that's watching the film.

Clyde D'Souza  04:49

Right Yeah, I mean, and you know, what's what's nice now is that the older generations I guess, they had certain kinds of professions which is basically they were either migrate So maybe they were working in the fields, or they were working on the ship. But now we're seeing a whole new generation of guns, right and, and guns who are choosing, like you to live in GWA and become professionals in slightly different, you know, arenas, which is, which is amazing. I mean, coming to, you know, get creative go what sparked you to launch that?

05:23

Basically, it's been a dominant idea for a while. And for the longest time, I've always felt that God has been blessed with a lot of creators a lot of creativity. But when you needed to find them, it was just very hard. It's as simple as that we just couldn't locate where the people were. So it could be as simple as wanting to get a design job done. But whereas where are the designers, and then eventually, you end up looking at designers in Bombay, or Bangalore, wherever it is, because it's just easier to find them when you google them, or you go to Behance, or whatever it is, right? Or, and it was not just in the graphic design, it was when it came to music, when it came to audio technicians, or it came to filmmakers, and just these all these different types of people that I knew always existed in Goa, but very hard to find. And so out of all of that, you know, there was the whole lockdown thing going on. And I was like, okay, perfect time to sort of give in to this idea and see what comes out of it. So I had a chat with a couple of my friends. And I said, Hey, guys, do you want to kind of just work on this idea and see what we can come up with. And really, it was like, a cut and paste sticky stick together like kind of really messy kind of way of going about it. But the whole idea was to create a sort of online space, where we could collate and bring all the different types of genres of creativity in go together in one space, it could become very easy for people looking for others to find that it was as simple as that when we put the wireframe website out, we were just not in any position to realize the kind of response we would get like it was it completely took us by surprise, because what we thought would happen over three months or four months, happened in a week. Like we had numbers of people joining us, like just went through the roof. And I was unbelievable. The response that we got the Instagram page, and like from there onwards, it's just been a journey of discovery, and kind of going forward. But essentially, if you asked me to define it, get creative goal is a place for the creators of God to get discovered to collaborate for clients to find them. And for them to find work, and eventually put up their stuff. And you know, and get it out there to the larger audience.

Clyde D'Souza  07:46

Amazing. Yeah, it's like a Tinder for creative professionals.

07:50

Yeah, exactly. Like, it is like a matchmaking service. That,

Clyde D'Souza  07:55

yeah, I think it's amazing, because there was a latent potential of people just lying there, but nobody knew how to connect with each other. And you've kind of just, you know, materialized that and brought to the surface. Do you think like, that's happening a lot more now with Google? Do you think now there is a generational shift happening with with Google becoming a creative hub of sorts,

08:15

from an occupational point of view, GoAir was very agrarian by nature, right. From its agrarian roots, it went slowly into industry, but not heavy duty industry industry that was basically created through mining and, and then tourism, Right. but predominantly, people did not have the resources, to send kids to schools, and all of that stuff. So that started happening, you know, in the, in the 60s, and 70s, and all of that stuff. So people started gaining education. And from that came the next generation, where people wanted security. So I remember as a kid, when I was going to school, the thing by default that you had to become was either a doctor or an engineer, right. And there was absolutely no room for any other sort of choice in career. And if you said anything about like, I want to be a painter, or I want to be an artist, or I want to be a musician, or I want to be a photographer, that was completely unheard of, you know, completely looked down upon, right? For the generations that came from, from agriculture, to the industry, to then professions of doctors and engineers, the doctors and engineers, all these guys did stuff where they realized, you know, I did what my parents told me, I have the money now, but maybe I'm not really happy inside for some reason, right? So today, they're more open to their kids saying that I don't want to become a doctor. I don't want to become an engineer. I want to become a DJ, I want to become a film producer I want and they're encouraging them. You know, they're like, Yeah, okay, go for it. Because we don't have to think about money anymore. We're happy to kind of fund your staff go for it. Right? So are people becoming more open to these sorts of professions? Since these unheard of professions before yes they are you know so you find obviously that's why I'm get creative go today we have over 700 people why because we have photographers we have cake makers we have the alternates now that it's not they didn't exist before they exist now in in larger numbers and a much more professional about

Clyde D'Souza  10:20

what's the most out of the box creator that you have on Get creative gua which you but you know, blow your mind away when you saw that this person does this sort of thing.

10:29

Um, I saw a guy that makes some really cool 3d printing stuff that blew my mind. Yeah, I mean, we use about 60 genres of creators on Get creative go. So you pretty much will find anyone you're looking for in that genre, you know? And, and it's growing, and it's growing. And it's because today, people are willing to stretch their imagination. Obviously, people now things have gotten normalized, right? They see other people doing it in other parts of the world, and it's kind of accepted, so it's getting normalized. Earlier, back in the day, the misfit was always the odd one out the misfit was always the one that was shamed. the midst of it was always the black sheep. Now, it's the misfits that are leading the way in, in an ironical way.

Clyde D'Souza  11:19

Right. Yeah, I mean, I'm just connecting this bit to to film, Shashi cercado, which is the granary of salsa, that's what it's, that's the byline right of the film, in which you've basically gone through family and the generation of farmers. And it's a bit of a lament also on maybe it has losing that generation. And I think that happened with all of us. I mean, I know that my granddad was called about car, but I've never seen a field in my life. And in that, in that in the in the film, which is so beautiful, you can hear the women singing in the fields, and you can hear this guy talking about how he might just be the last person in his family to do that, right. And now looking back, how do you feel about that film? Because obviously, that was a love tale on farming, right? But there's also the reality of people moving away from from farming it becoming more corporatized. How do you feel about the film now, after after so many years?

12:10

Well, first of all about the film, kind of approached it, because I wanted to make the film, I approached it, because I was just documenting what was happening in the village, as a part of a project for my family. Before I did that film, I was not really a filmmaker, per se, that was my film school in many ways. But I think the film will always be important to me, because of what it taught me, the film will always I think, in a way be important to go up because of the narrative of that film, the value of it will be seen not now. But the value of that film will come to light, I think, maybe 15 years from now, 20 years from now, as the scene changes, as environment changes, and all of that stuff changes, the context of the film will suddenly come to light, it will be used maybe for academic reasons, it will be used for sociological reasons, anthropological could be any of that stuff. I think it's an important piece of work on go off. So

Clyde D'Souza  13:04

yeah, I mean, it's, it's amazing, the whole film, and I hope a lot more people, you know, find a way that they can watch it, because especially what's happening with the world today, in terms of, you know, climate change, and people going back to organic food, the creative outlet can also be through farming. And I mean, that's happening in pockets, and maybe, maybe, you know, new generations will also look at that, you know, so you might just have a digital influencer, who's a farmer, perhaps?

13:32

Yeah, I mean, not only that, I think that first of all, you know, we take away we stripped back all of the digital influencing, or we stripped back any of all these things that we are so kind of accustomed to, in today's world, and we just look at farming for what it is, you know, we will then be able to understand that so much of it really is about food security, that really is a priority. And that's what I was trying to say through the film, we have to honor the farmers in the fields, we have to honor the land, and we have to basically look at what's going on and take stock of it before it's too late. Because it's not funny, you know, COVID happened. We got locked in for a few days. And we realized, man, this is not funny at all, to not be able to access food, because we're so dependent on the outside world to give us food.

Clyde D'Souza  14:20

You know? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think the film shows that beautifully. And, and in terms of when you were filming it. So these are people who are like in the, in your village next to you all of these people who are who are there in the film.

14:35

Yep, yep. So most of the film is shot in the village. Whenever I've had stepped outside the village because of, you know, where the narrative needed to go, I have gone outside of the village. And the thing is that whatever is really happening in this village is happening in other villages, and whatever's happening within other villages in this village is happening in other parts of the country and in other parts of the world. So really You can really look at it from a micro cosmic stage, which is what is in here and go to the macro. And they are really related. So what's happening in Karuturi? is something that is identical to what's happening in probably North Carolina or something in America, because farming pretty much facing similar and same problems across the world today, you know, farmers are the same problems.

Clyde D'Souza  15:24

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I mean, that's, of course, a huge issue. And I think a lot of people are kind of, you know, waking up to it. So, I mean, that's amazing. Now in terms of also filmmaking, a lot of people may not know, but go also had a lot of great films, right, like Nirma, and and, um, channel, sheep, and all of these really old films that had some outstanding actors, some great singers. So do you think like, there are more stories that go needs to tell not only nonfiction and documentary, but also just just stories from GWA? And, and what do you think those should be? You know, should they be about rice? Should they be about rivers? What is it? What are you think?

16:02

It's hard, and I think it'd be unfair for me to define what kind of stories should be told from go up, because I think that really is born in the minds of the creators. But if you ask me, Are there stories and go, I think, a million in one, I see them all on me, Go has a story. In every street, every corner, every home, I see stories everywhere, you know, and they're not just simple stories, I see beautiful stories in Well, I think that there are so many stories that need to be told. And I think that's what get creative girl wants to do. We recently ran a competition called carnival and five, which was if anybody out there can use carnival as the backdrop and shoot a short film in five or up to five minutes, send them across and you know, you can learn something. It's not really about the price, but it's about sort of kickstart the firm thinking the film. It's a part of culture, you know, climate doesn't just happen overnight. You've got to kind of inculcate this, you got to kind of motivate it, you got to kind of support it, you got to make people think about these things, right? filmmakers are not just going to be born overnight. It's takes time. But stories are everywhere, and people need to see them. And more than fiction, I think nonfiction, there's so much to be documented in Co Op, which needs serious documentation.

Clyde D'Souza  17:28

Yeah, exactly. So that's, that's what I was coming to, which is basically, you know, culture is built a through, of course, community living in the community, then it's built through oral stories, and it's built through documentation. Right. So there's so much that needs to be documented from historical perspective from a cultural perspective. And yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, like the I think maybe you will come up with something. I'm sure I

17:49

just finished shooting my film, because I was inspired with carnival tonight. So I'm going to be kind of putting that film out on Sunday. Oh, lovely. So the film will be out by then. And then I'll have this one on YouTube so people can watch it wherever they are.

Clyde D'Souza  18:03

Oh, that's lovely. Your Instagram page is very lively, energetic. It's now moved from just being a networking place to also creating content, right. So this this the part that you just spoke about, which was the carnival, which happens just before Lent, for Catholics who go and Catholics, and I saw that the videos that you put out there with all of these old timers, a guy called Fang keto, right and so many other people and they spoke about like this. He spoke about how he didn't let Vijay Mallya enter the club Nasional right because the theme was red and black and Vijay Mallya was not wearing red and black. So these are the stories. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's these amazing stories which would showcase the culture and the people. So I'm looking forward to your to film, you know, on the Sunday and what's it called? I mean, are you going to visit does it have a name or something?

18:51

It's basically it's a company name. And upon naming my films at Bocconi because I shoot so much in villages. The film was called, so try care Paula Nara sutra, which means attention of watchers of street drama, attention. It's basically what if you lived in Goa, you will be very used to this phrase, because it's what, as kids, we all grew up listening to whenever there was a local drama that was going to be performed on the church grounds that there would be a tempo that would go around with a microphone. Yes. And the guy would be announcing this and throwing the leaflets out of his out of his

Clyde D'Souza  19:34

tempo. Right,

19:36

this is exactly what he would be saying to get our attention, you know, so the film really is about the guilty arts that happened during Carnival. So I kind of used the, the, the tag line, which is what the is they say, yeah,

Clyde D'Souza  19:54

no, that's great. And is is that the art scene picking up now again,

19:58

it is it is very, very active. I think it's one of the most active theatrical forms in India today. Yeah, we have the arts that are performed. Okay. COVID is affected, badly affected. But now that COVID is kind of, there's been a respite. I see no reason why the theater scene should not be back up and running. I think it will. Will I work in that arena? I think it's very important to actually do some work in there and documentation because that is like one of the most under documented parts of our own culture,

Clyde D'Souza  20:31

you know, yeah, yeah. I mean, my family are fans of Prince Jacob and and all of these guys and whenever they come down to Mumbai, or when we go to go yeah, we're always watching them and yeah, it's it's amazing. So any any any theatrics that you any anyone that you can name that you that you like, or who are your personal favorites?

20:50

I think as a kid I I grew up going to a lot of Rose funds the arts. And, and I haven't watched the arts in a long time. But I think given a choice, I would go and watch a rose Ferrante art, and Prince Jacob in France. In fact, Prince Jacob was the comedian in rose funds the arts back in the day. And then later he left and went on to start his own the arts right. But then there are other guys whose guy there was a very famous the arteries. That was my neighbor for so many years called William the cool story. Yeah,

Clyde D'Souza  21:21

I've heard of him. Great. Yeah. So the other thing that that happened to me when I was writing my book, right, I started of course, researching on GWA and guns. And I noticed that there were a lot of young kids from GWA. Who are I mean, you can call them influencers, whatever you want to call them. I just like to call them creative people, they've just taken to Instagram. Right? And they're kind of killing it. I mean, there's food bloggers that travel bloggers. And it's nice to see that right? Because there's like this new confidence that's that's in in this young generation. Yes. And what do you think about some of them? And any anyone that you follow? Who should Who do you think we should be looking out for

21:58

I think a lot of the majority of govern content creators are into the lifestyle thing where and it's either about restaurants or it's about travel, or it's about you know, products or food, right? And then you have content creators are talking about technical stuff like audio and it could be or reviewing audio equipment or teaching or things and we have very a lesser number of them and go right I would love to see more of those content creators. But if you asked me like, straight off the bat you're like okay, who was some of the Witcher some of the Golden pages on Instagram you should kind of follow or look at I'd say the golden pole for his very typical going Lucky's got this whole go and humor thing going

Clyde D'Souza  22:48

Yeah, I like him. Yeah, there is

22:51

hungry wolf for like his food, blogs and all of that stuff. There is a girl by the name of Larissa was a big influencer. There is Natella Ornella. Who's another big influence? So then there is a DJ, Aneesh Gara.

Clyde D'Souza  23:07

Yeah. And they are now so the other thing that I want to ask you is, obviously see a lot of the digital influencers are personalities. And if you look at the global stage and the world and what's happening in other cities in India, there are a lot of brands who are kind of, you know, chasing them, and they can literally make a profession out of it. Are you seeing that happening and go, I mean, maybe it's happening with some of the food bloggers, maybe it's happening with some of the lifestyle ones, the touristy ones, I'm sure. But are you? Are you seeing brands? Because now what you've done is you have you have connected in that sense. You've connected some creative professionals with the clients, so to speak, right? But are you also seeing this, this other scene hotting up a little bit where, where brands are reaching out to influencers? Do you think that are you a part of that

23:53

I'm not entered into that equation right now. It's pretty democratic. People are listed and brands can contact them and sign contracts or deals with them directly. So I'm not a middleman. I'm not in the middle of that. But to answer your question, if you look at art are the artists today or the creator today? The other people that either have the skill or the concepts or the ideas and then somebody else wants to use that, right? Where I find this, the sort of incongruence happening in this market is where a lot of advantage is being taken off creators of the of artists, because somebody is trying to get them to do things for free, you know, or, or have promised them, hey, you know what, I'll give you exposure, do it for nothing, or do it for very little right. And at the end of the day, I think the artists have bills to pay just like anybody else. The creators have bills to pay what I feel artists, whether they are influencers, or whether they are musicians or whether they are if they are good. They need professional management correct once they get professional management Then what happens is a brand or whoever it is, can't really muck around with them, because there's a certain fee and an inch of dealing directly with them. There is there is a way to actually make sure that people are not getting taken advantage of. Right? Yeah, as the creative go, we haven't really gotten into that spaces yet. But we would like to create the awareness, we've already started. But we would like to create the awareness wherein we, you know, really push that message forward that artists should should really not be taken advantage of.

Clyde D'Souza  25:32

Yeah, no, yeah. Because there's a lot of stuff happening especially with India, right? I mean, I'm the way I'm looking at it is that India currently is like at this is going through this phase of like a golden age of entrepreneurs, of unicorns of creative people, you know, anybody with with someone who had some dream or some passion, they are able to do that, and they are able to succeed in it, for example, like Punjab is seeing like this music revolution, right? So the seeing of film revolution, Bangalore, or tech one, like, what do you think is go as revolution?

26:03

Well, Gore has to want to create a revolution, you know, has everything here the talent is here, everything is here. But I think the one thing that lets go down, is it's laid back, the one of the biggest challenges that I've come across is getting the people in a way to be professional about their time we got back in the day, you know, we used to say, God, and that was my grandfather, grandfather. I don't know whether we have the luxury to be so say God anymore. You don't I mean, I think alongside say, God, that definitely needs to be balanced.

Clyde D'Souza  26:43

Yeah, I just wanted to say that, you know, I want to reclaim that word to say, God, and the meaning of the cigar should actually become balanced, which is, which is what's happening, right? I mean, there is burnout on one end, and then there is completely laid back on the other end, right. And cigar is basically in the middle. That's what it should be ideally. So,

27:01

you know, I think there needs to be there needs to be that balance. But to answer your question, given the infrastructure that we have, given the natural beauty that we have, given all of the stuff that we have, I think our evolution could really be creativity, you know, we could be the creative hub of India, you know, we could be that place, wherein we have infrastructure built for people that want to come in, and work on concepts and ideas that solve problems, that are possible issues that are going to come up in the future.

Clyde D'Souza  27:32

Yeah, because I see a lot of influences from go, and especially a lot of younger ones, they are very sensitive to ecology to the environment,

27:40

environment is just one part of the things that we need to answer today, you know, one of the issues that we need to answer there are so many more that are the things that in Go, we need to start creating, it could be redefining what is the education system? Or redefining the way we look at education today? And what are people learning? And is it redundant, you know, isn't necessarily to do that. It could be in areas of sport, instead of starting industries that are based on you know, heavy drawing huge amount of natural resources, maybe we could look at industries now, building industries that are, you know, something in the in the areas of future technology, you know, green, there are so many things, man, but to be honest, it's the place go as a place that has always drawn the creative people from all over the world, you know, whether you look at it in the hippie revolution, where the hippies came in from San Francisco, and started the whole music thing in Goa, you know, whether you look at the later on, yeah, it was, you know, different people that came from different parts of Guatemala go their home, different parts of India that people came in, whether it's architects or designers, or hoteliers, or restaurant as people came in, have always the creative people have always come in to go, you know, so yeah, it's all here. It's all here. It's just about it's just about infrastructure. Selecting all these people, you know,

Clyde D'Souza  29:21

yeah. So yeah, let's hope that you know, I mean, it has always been this magnet wins for people like you mentioned and let's just hope that one is that they fall in love with the with the place and once they love a place like literally love it, then they will probably hopefully take care of it as well. Right?

29:38

Well, that is something that we have to hope for. Yes, yes. We have to hope for them. We can you know, enforce because that comes from within. If you love something you want to take care of it.

Clyde D'Souza  29:49

Exactly. Yeah. So speaking of love now that comes to my next segment. So say God secret segment. What do you think and we just spoke a little bit about the term cigar itself. So with This new term in mind, which is balance, what would you say is your say God secret?

30:07

For me, its nature. So for me to say God is, in my mind, it's something that in many ways embodies the feeling of being content, simply content, or content simply does not take much. You don't need to have much to have that feeling of being so say God. And, and for me, I think it's when I'm in the lap of nature. It's like when I am, you know, walking on that beach by myself, and I have like, I'm at peace with everything, right? Like, there is no internal strife. There is no, nothing. There is no agenda. I'm just there. I'm just walking, or I'm sometimes in company. You know, I've got friends around me and we're just having a laugh and a chat. And in that moment, I can feel that sense of Saigon, peaceful, easy feeling. You know, the Eagles have that song called peaceful, easy feeling. Great song. So for me, it's to say God is something like that song. It's a peaceful, easy feeling.

Clyde D'Souza  31:08

Yeah, that's nice, peaceful, easy feeling. That's a good one. My next question is, what is the meaning of love to you? Wow,

31:15

that's the people around me, I think, you know, it's the people around me that give me the context of love, okay? Love without, you know, all of that stuff is pretty non contextual, right? You feel love because something gives you the context of love. So for me, it's it's family that gives me the context of love it's relationships that give me the context of love. It's my my work that gives me the my passion that gives me the context of love. My, it could be as simple as spending time with my dog that gives me the context of love. You know, that moment, I know that I care deeply about whatever it is that I'm either interacting with, or whatever is interacting with me.

Clyde D'Souza  32:00

It's nicely but I mean, the equation with people and that's what you're saying, you know, is kind of love maybe so now my my next segments, it's the rapid fire round. Okay, so yeah, yoga was your favorite, go on storyteller and film.

32:17

The film is on Channel ship. And my favorite cone storyteller is Lorna.

Clyde D'Souza  32:23

Wow, that's a good one. Okay, I'll let our audience go and discover Lorna and Google her and hopefully will. Okay, your favorite creative person, maybe an old timer.

32:35

I'm gonna sound really cheesy saying this. I actually love the work of Mario Miranda. People know Mario Miranda's later work. But if you looked at some of the older work, and you study it, and you look at the journals and stuff that he did, you couldn't really see the evolution of a creative mind. What an absolutely amazing creative mind.

Clyde D'Souza  32:54

Yeah, absolutely. I agree. All right, your favorite gun traditional song.

32:59

My thing would have to be more Pilotto from entrepreneurship. Oh, yeah,

Clyde D'Souza  33:03

that's that's such a good song. Do you? Do you remember? Can you can you sing the line from it? That's one of my favorites as well. Morgana song she's still beautiful. It's beautiful. Yeah. And can you tell people what means?

33:25

Morgana somebody? Well, it's a love song really? Where the guy is talking about love. And basically in it. He's describing this ethereal place in a way, you know?

Clyde D'Souza  33:39

Yeah. Nice. It's a great song and I hope people listen to it. All right, your favorite young I mean, you named a few sometime back, but one of your personal favorite social media influences from what?

33:52

I think I would have to say hungry because of the food.

Clyde D'Souza  33:56

I have to check him out. Okay, what's the company phrase or term that you like to use? You know, regularly whether it's our voice or you know, whatever it is what's what's the go and go and phrase or term that you use?

34:08

It's pretty I can't say it yet because a lot of it is slang and not meant for the audience. But I think

Clyde D'Souza  34:18

we can go ahead go ahead. We still don't have answers ships on podcasts so I think we can we can I think Anna you know what, I think it should be necessary for people to learn slang that's that's one of the ways to fall in love it please. So please, please, go ahead.

34:35

Okay, then in that case, it would be probably use the word challenger. Which is, you know, it's not the lightest of words to use in war. But, yeah,

Clyde D'Souza  34:53

actually, what does Churchill mean? I have heard it so many times. I mean, I get when I when someone says But I know that they are cussing and you know, they're being derogatory but what does it mean? I don't know.

35:07

It's like, you know, a son of a bitch. Ah,

Clyde D'Souza  35:11

yes, yes, yes. No great, Vince, this has been fun, absolutely fun, amazing. And I think, get creative guys just beginning to, you know, grow in ways that that we are hopefully going to see, you know, way, way bigger than what it is and what you had started out with. It's of course, you know, a nice platform for professionals, creative professionals and go out to get in touch with each other. And we can see that and that's amazing. So it's been a great conversation. I'm you know, thank you for coming on to the cigar stories podcast.

35:46

My pleasure, Clyde, thank you so much for inviting me and for having me here as a guest. I totally appreciate it. And this time that you're given to listen to my two bits.

Clyde D'Souza  35:56

Absolutely. I'm gonna keep checking your Instagram and I always end with with my favorite phrase, which is Morga Sony. Yes, yes. Thank you for listening. And I hope you enjoyed this episode of say God stories from Guam. Do subscribe if you're a new listener and join a community of people who love and live the golden lifestyle. Again, I'm Clyde de Souza and for more go and content you can follow me on Instagram at Clyde de Souza author. This podcast is brought to you by bound, a company that helps you grow through stories, follow them and bound India on all social platforms for updates on this podcast or take a look at their other podcasts more gasunie and see you soon