While walking on the beach, trying to get over a creative block, Tamsin Noronha stumbled upon an “art supply'' which was abundant and available at her fingertips, TRASH, and started to create installations right at the beach!
Her colourful artwork is made solely with the materials she finds on the beaches of Dona Paula, Goa. Find out how to get over a creative block? What is beachcombing and sea cycling? And what's her philosophy of art and beauty?
Tune in to find out!
Travel tip: Why just stick to beaches of goa, when you can go for a hike as well! Take out your hiking boots and explore Valpoi where you’ll see the flora and fauna of Goa at its finest.
Produced by Aishwarya Javalgekar
Sound edit by Kshitij Jadhav
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Hosted by Clyde D’Souza. He is a creative director who has worked in TV, print, and digital. His book Susegad: The Goan Art Of Contentment captures Goa through conversations, memories, stories, recipes and much more. He lives between Mumbai and Goa and lives the Susegad lifestyle every day! Follow him on Instagram @clydedsouzaauthor.
While walking on the beach, trying to get over a creative block, Tamsin Noronha stumbled upon an “art supply'' which was abundant and available at her fingertips, TRASH, and started to create installations right at the beach!
Her colourful artwork is made solely with the materials she finds on the beaches of Dona Paula, Goa. Find out how to get over a creative block? What is beachcombing and sea cycling? And what's her philosophy of art and beauty?
Tune in to find out!
Travel tip: Why just stick to beaches of goa, when you can go for a hike as well! Take out your hiking boots and explore Valpoi where you’ll see the flora and fauna of Goa at its finest.
Produced by Aishwarya Javalgekar
Sound edit by Kshitij Jadhav
Brought to you by Bound, a company that helps you grow through stories. Follow us @boundindia on all social platforms for updates on this podcast or take a look at their other podcasts.
Hosted by Clyde D’Souza. He is a creative director who has worked in TV, print, and digital. His book Susegad: The Goan Art Of Contentment captures Goa through conversations, memories, stories, recipes and much more. He lives between Mumbai and Goa and lives the Susegad lifestyle every day! Follow him on Instagram @clydedsouzaauthor.
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chapel's bottles, bottle caps glass from beer bottles, these are a few of Tamsin Muranos favorite things if I might say so. My guest today is the innovative beach loving eco warrior and young artists from Dona Paula gua her installations on the beach made from beach waste is beautiful and truly clutter breaking. Tamsin Aruna is a young girl and artist who studied art in the Netherlands but returned to go and is an artist who I think is probably the present and the future star of GWA. Welcome, Thompson. And thank you for coming on to cigar stories from your podcast. Hi, Clive. Thank you for having me. It's nice to be here. Yep. Pleasure to have you. And I remember, you know, going through your Insta feed, and I don't know how it popped up. But it was just so beautiful. And I was like, Okay, what is this? And then I realized that Okay, wait a minute. This is made from beach waste. And I was like, okay, that's amazing. So yeah, so I reached out and you know, yeah, I think you're doing some great stuff. But before we get into all the art stuff that you're doing, you know, what I like to do is when I just start off podcast, I like to give the listeners a sense of where in Goa you're from, and maybe even describe your surroundings a little bit. So you come from a place where, which is very touristy. It's probably every couple's favorite place to visit.
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about where you're from and your surroundings right now. Yes, I'm in Dona Paula. Right now. I grew up here. And yeah, I've lived here basically all my life. It's a beautiful area. And you're right, it is really touristy. There's Dona Paula Jetty where a lot of tourists like to visit, but it always creates a nice atmosphere around and right now I am in my room. And yeah, I'm ready for a nice conversation about art and waste. Great, superb. So you know, I mean, as people who are in the creative field, and as writers or artists, there's always this thing about creative block, or you know, mood or lack of resources. But you've basically taken a resource, which is waste, and you've made something beautiful out of it. So now I want to ask, do you remember your eureka moment? You know, that first instant that made you look at beach rubbish when you're probably walking in on Dona Paula beach? And think, okay, I can make something beautiful out of this. What was your eureka moment? Well, I wouldn't exactly put it like that. Because, as you said, I was actually having a creative block. And I think yes, all artists go through creative blocks. It's, it's totally normal. And I still have it now. But I was going through a creative block, I was fed up of buying, you know, materials and using them and having to buy materials again. And I was attending beach cleanup drives. And I was collecting. Even when I was going to the beach by myself, I was collecting trash, because it was just everywhere. It was just abundantly all over available to me. So I started collecting the trash and the beach, I go to everyday, which is Hawaii beach and Dona Paula, I would actually just create a sort of stack in one of the fisherman boats. So I would take the interesting sort of pieces and keep it in one of the boats. And it was monsoon so they weren't using the boats. So I would just store it there. And I thought I am going to do something with this one day. I just don't know what yet. As I started collecting, I collected more and more and more, it became a big pile. And then I did decide to kind of make an insulation on the beach that day. So I made an insulation on the beach, and I posted it on social media and the response was insane. So that's when I thought, Okay, I'm actually going to use this as a material and it's so easily available, and it's going to help everyone out because it's cleaning the beach. And then I don't have to buy other materials. So it worked out. It worked out like that. So Hawaii beach and then you picked up what were the things that you picked up? What were some of the articles and what exactly was the installation? Okay, so I picked up just bits that were interesting to me. So colorful pieces, like choppers as loads, like there's so many chapels you wouldn't even believe it. Okay, that there's garland pieces. There's a lot of toys. There's a lot of glass. There's a lot of different sorts of bottles. Yeah, there's a lot of tiles as well. So I just collected all the bits that seemed interesting to me. And yes, yeah, yeah. And just tell us a little bit about the installation on the beach like what exactly was economics
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rectangle or what was it? The first installation, I called it washed up sunset because it was a circular form. And it was different colors of waste and it so and it was like beginning to be dusk at that point when I photographed it. So it looked like the sun but of course on the beach. So it was a circular form. And it was quite big. So it was the first one. Yes. Right. So now, Tamsin, here's my take on beauty, right? I think that basically beauty is not just something that looks good, but it actually has a function. And, you know, it's like, whether it's an object or music or a book, that beauty in the art uplifts your mood, and it kind of makes our experience as human beings better. So what's your take on art and beauty? Well, I like to see the beauty and everything. And as an artist, I think I have the ability to do that. I think what you said was exactly right. Something can be beautiful from like, just visually, but it also should have a deeper meaning and message. And that is what I'm trying to do as well in my art. So you actually put it quite right. I think my work is aesthetically pleasing. But then when you have like a longer look at it, you'll see it does have a deeper meaning and that everything is made up of basically waste. Wow. So we're always but we're just trying to be beautiful
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in some things
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So now tell me tell me this process of beachcombing and C cycling you know, these are the terms that I think I came across. So what exactly is is is beachcombing and C cycling? Well, um, so first of all C cycling I kind of just made up this word by myself, because I thought it was quite catchy. I've named one of my pieces C cycling and I also called all the workshops that I take C cycling but I've just made the word up. Nice copyrighted.
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Yeah, actually, I think it's quite smart.
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Basically, there's two different ways to collect trash from the beach. There's one which is beach cleanup drives, which are, you know, massive drives where you pick up everything that you see on the beach, that's not meant to be there. But on the other hand, there's beach combing, which is picking up just interesting items. So it could be sea glass, it could be sea pottery, so see glass and see pottery, basically glass and ceramic that have been battered up by waves and rocks and sand and have become smoothed over time. So once in a while, I'll find the last piece which has been so battered up that it turns into a marble. So beachcombing is finding interesting bits like that. So it could be even like an interesting toy, things like that. And actually, one of the first most interesting pieces I found was a really strange piece. It was a Christmas tree, a tiny Christmas tree made out of ceramic, but it was also a thermometer. So it was a Christmas tree with thermometer and it was about the size of my palm. Yeah, it was so strange. And I still have it. I'm never letting it go. Yeah, that's amazing. Any other interesting waste products that you've come across like this. Um, I have found this really cool ship seal. So it was a circular thing that used to be on chips back in the day. And yeah, I mean, I found that quite interesting. Um, there's been lots and lots of doll hands. So yeah, it's basically who your kids are gets when they get it over there. And they lose those. Okay. Yeah. But the ship seat sounds very interesting. So have you done something with the ship view? I gifted it to one of my friends actually. Wow. Because she was super stunned by it. So I said, you know, you can have it? Yeah, I think so. Uh, you know, what you're doing reminds me of that Japanese art form. I think it's called Kintsugi. Right. Where they take like, a broken ways or was horrible. Yes, yes. Yes. Right. And then they came
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back together, and then they paint the cracks gold? Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Correct. And it's called the beauty of imperfections. So in a way, yeah, you need to think of a good name for this, you know, so it's like, yes. What's the company word for waste? I actually don't know, something that spoiled is, you know, with our response, right. Right. Okay. So yeah, now another thing that I noticed about you know, your the Seaway series that you've done is that they're all thematic in color, like there's mostly white and blue I guess. And then some of it is kind of white and beige brown. So how are you deciding this team and you just pick pieces which are from these colors, or have you used them?
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paint over them to give it that that uniform color. Yeah, actually, I don't paint over anything. A lot of people think I paint the trash but I don't I actually yeah, I go out looking for the color that I have in mind to make. So if it's blue, I'll just pick up blue trash. And yeah, if it's green, if it's pink, purple, I'll pick up that color trash and then I'll make my feasts and the themes I think of they usually beachy and natural. I like all things natural, botanical, something that has marine biodiversity related to it. Yeah, foliage and just anything natural, basically. Right. And how many kilos of waste do you have in your house?
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Like what the hell
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yeah, yeah. So that's so when I first began, I was just collecting everything possible. That's why I've had to start just collecting the color that I need for my work. Otherwise, my house would be filled up right now.
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Right. Okay, cool. And now this beachcombing is it is there. So do people kind of like do this regularly? And can you kind of go beachcombing with someone? You know, are there any announcements that are made? You know, because I know that it happens in certain places, but is there any particular game that you know that just goes to different beaches? Can you tell us about that? Actually, I have not come across it and go I had also that oh yeah, I didn't even think about it. Yeah, I feel like it might just be me. And then I have a friend that likes to Beachcomber as well. But, um, I don't know. I think over here, people look at trash and they think it's just trash. So I think that's why the beachcombing kind of mentality isn't really a thing over here. But I could be wrong. Maybe I should organize a beachcombing session. Yeah, sure. Yeah, please.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea. Yeah. Cool. So I know, I saw one of your other art pieces, which was again on your Instapage. And it's like this map of India. Right. And it looks, it looks quite good, actually. So it just tell us a little bit about that. And you know, what motivated you to kind of make that. Okay, so that map was actually a commissioned by a sustainable building company in Mumbai. So I had a chat with the head. And we talked about what could give a good message. And we eventually did come up with the idea of doing a map of India. And yeah, so I found a map of India using colors of blue and turquoise. And it was a very, very big piece. It was by 4.5 feet. So that is basically my height. I'm about five feet. So yeah, so that was like the biggest waste project I've done so far. But it was great fun. And I actually, I remember I happened to find a keychain with guar written on it. So I will be using that where guys placed on the map. So that was a nice coincidence. And yeah, that was that was an amazing piece to me. Yeah. And was there an installation? Or was was it like? Is it like framed or something? That's a framed piece. It had to make a massive, massive frame for it. Yeah. And then I had to ship it to Mumbai. So it's in Mumbai now. Wow. Okay, awesome. Yeah, I think you should do one with map of GWA. Perhaps? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm open to that. Yeah. Now, so there is this, you know, this very equal touch to everything that you do. And I think you've participated in the Molen protests project that could potentially damage the volume forests and its biodiversity. It's quite a controversial project that's happening right now. And of course, as some of us know, more than is home to the 12th century thumri Solar Temple. It also has got all this waterfall, the Dudhsagar falls. Now, if you've been to Mowlem, I don't know if you have but what do you find most amazing about more than? Well, I have been to Tom de sola and the areas around it. So I don't know if that technically counts as more lamb but yeah, I've been around the area, I definitely need to go into like, proper Mall. And because I've heard that there are bioluminescent mushrooms, that you're mad a certain season, and I absolutely would love to go see that because that sounds amazing. Right? Yeah, I mean, there are some I think flora and fauna which are only growing in that part of India and maybe perhaps even the world. So its biodiversity is quite rich. Yeah. What were the art pieces that you made for the Milan protests? Did you make anything for them? Or was it just you participating in the protests? Um, it was a combination. I think back in 2020. Back in 2020, I made a few artworks which were acrylic pores, and then I kind of drew botanical life onto the acrylic board.
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was, and yeah, that was great fun. And then that was to kind of show awareness about the whole movement because that was back when it was first becoming a thing. And then yeah, as time went on, I made a lot of signs for the protests and hand them out to protesters. And then oh, I recently this year in Jan, I did a live on the on the M Jurmala. Instagram, I did a live session, a live art session where I made an animal sculpture made from plastic entirely. So anyone who was watching could follow along and make that with me with just material that they had around. So that was also good fun. That's still up on their Instagram. So it's accessible to people whenever they want. So that yeah, that was good. Right? Okay. Now again, another thing about GWAS beaches, it's we have like about 103 kilometers of coastline, over 35 beaches, some known for silky white sand, some known like margin, for example, is known for Jared Leto to the nesting ground. Right now, someone who's a beach lover, like I think you told me that, you know, go with your dog for a walk also every day on the beach, right? What are the kinds of changes? Or what would you like to see that would, you know, preserve the beaches of Goa? So I actually, just to say what you said about the dog, I have a pack of seven beach dogs who live on the beach, so I don't have a dog. But those Okay, all those dogs are basically my dogs, because I feed them every day. And then yeah, we go for walks on the beach. Yeah, that Hawaii Beach is where they live. So yeah. So those are basically my dogs.
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I think it honestly is down to the mindset of people. Because I've seen people just come from after a dolphin sighting boat trip, and they've had a lunch on the boat. They've had snacks on the boat they've had beyond the boat, they land on the beach, and then they just dump their garbage there. So I think that mentality needs to change and I get that the beach is already full of trash, but you know, it needs to start somewhere you need to stop adding to it. Um, Hawaii beach doesn't have bins, so I think definitely more beaches should have trash cans, big trash cans, and then have a proper waste collection. So that would definitely help at least contain the waste into one area. And then also a lot of the waste is also discarded fishing material. There's a an abundant amount of fishing material lying around, which is very, very bad for marine life. If it's in the sea. It's also quite dangerous for anyone, like the dogs or even people maybe if they
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tread in it, and I've seen dogs get hurt in the nets that are just lying around. Right. So I think disposal of that properly would would help the beach situation. Okay, so Tamsin Tell me a little bit about your background as in like you, you studied and go and then you went to do art in the Netherlands. So So what did you study in the Netherlands? And yeah, a little bit about your art journey. Yeah. So I yeah, I went to school here. I went to Sunshine. And then I went to shadow Monday to do my 11th and 12th, which is where I took art as a subject. And yeah, it went really well. So I thought, and I've always, always loved art. So I thought, okay, I do want to pursue this. And I was thinking of going somewhere in India, but then I have a twin brother and he he wanted to go to the UK. So then I thought, Okay, I'm gonna also try going abroad. And the UK was coming out to be really expensive. So I looked at the Netherlands actually, and that was a lot cheaper than anywhere else, because the government subsidizes the, the fee. So I applied to two colleges in the Netherlands. And yeah, I just I chose one because it was in Groningen. And it was a cute little student town. It's sort of like the go out of the Netherlands. It's like a small town. everyone sort of knows each other. You have a nice, tight knit family vibe. And I thought, Yes, this is the place for me to go study. And actually there's a lot of guns there now as well. Which is nice. Yeah, a lot of guns are starting to go there. And yeah, it's a lovely, lovely place. I studied Fine Art there for four years. And it was so different to the study mentality that I grew up with here. It was, yeah, I saw some wild things, but it was it was great fun, and it really it opened my mind to so many new things and made me quite resourceful and it made me think out of the box and
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It was great, because everyone, everyone who did the bachelor's degree ended up with a different end result for their graduation. So yeah, no one had even a little bit the same thing. So, yeah, it was it was such a great experience. Nice. And did you always grow up? As a as a child? Would you always draw? I mean, did you know that you have like had like an inkling towards art or, you know, illustrating, or you know, that sort of, yeah, definitely, definitely. I was always drawing. I saw my bedroom here, in my house in Dona Paula is just covered in paint like the bed, I painted the bedframe. I painted the AC unit I painted.
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Are you saying you did this as a kid or as an adult as a, as a kid? I painted everything like, Oh, my God, little doodles all over. And I don't know why my parents didn't stop me. But it's still there till today. I'm quite embarrassed of it now. Because it's just, you know, it's like doodles. It's collages of celebrities. It's just, it's like a pop of like craziness. And yeah, it's funny to see it. But it's also interesting to see how, yeah, I loved it from a young age, every single thing has been good. Anything I could get my hands on, I would, I would put paint on it.
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Wow, amazing. Yeah, I think the things that we do as kids are the things that you kind of enjoy, you know, doing as adults as well. And I think yeah, so I think what I'm one of the things that you're doing with with kids is like workshops, right? So like you mentioned, you call them C cycling workshops. So what do you do in the workshops? And who are these kids? And you know, what are your what's a typical workshop like? So I do these interactive sessions with kids. And we basically use waste. So I do what I do, as my art practice, I show it to them. So I also teach them a little bit about waste management, recycling, reducing also, and sustainability. And I find that the kids are always a lot more engaged when they're using waste. And they're using normal art materials. So because it's something different for them, I guess they've never used a material like that before. So they always find it really interesting. It's always so much fun. And everyone's everyone's coming up with a different end result. I had a workshop at Juniper, Anta, which is the Go Art Center, and I had a large group of about 20 kids. And every single person came up with a different end result, a different art piece, which was all made out of waste, and garbage. And some of them bought their own garbage from home and use that I also bought a bunch with me. So yeah, that was absolutely amazing. And I have these workshops every now and then I think I'm going to be having one in December. And that's going to be a different one. It's going to be making Christmas ornaments out of trash out of waste. Oh, that sounds exciting. That'll be interesting. That will most probably happen at Parana cafe in Anjuna. So if any listeners interested, they can definitely check out my Instagram to see any updates about that. Yeah, super. And like I asked you, I think you know, the lot of the things that are available to kids are things that should be available to adults. Yes. So are you planning to do a workshop for adults as well, I do want to do an adult workshop, I might be doing a Christmas tree making workshop.
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Let's see how that turns out. I'm not sure. But otherwise, actually, all my workshops are, I don't put an age group on them. So anyone can join. But usually it's just kids. I've had one adult once. And that was great. Because, you know, it's like looking at the world or looking at art from a different perspective, because you're making it with something that someone's thrown away. So yeah, I find adults adults would definitely enjoy it. So I do want to encourage adults to have a go, right? And just to be clear, so that our listeners can kind of imagine you know what, what these art pieces are? So they are basically like waste products and then you kind of lay them out, yes or no. Is it canvas? And then then, then typically, you have to frame them, right. That's what yeah, that's what I do with my works. I get a board, I cover it in fabric and then I make an arrangement of sorts on their configuration of sorts. But for the workshops, I do different things. They can either make wallhangings Or they can make they can make basically anything. Sometimes kids make seascapes or landscapes. So now the possibilities are endless. Actually, I've had kids make sculptures as well before and robots and yeah, all sorts of different things. Well, one, no speaking of Christmas, which is just around
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The corner as we speak right now, what do you have planned? I mean, do you are you planning? Like? I mean, you said that you might do a Christmas workshop, but are you planning out pieces by yourself, which maybe people can buy? Are you thinking of maybe, I don't know, frames or something like that, for 2023. I don't have anything as such planned like that. But I do have a calendar coming. I will be Yeah, I will be printing out calendars for sale. They're going to be 2023 calendars, of course. And other than that, I actually have this idea where Wanamaker are just to do the Christmas tree, but made from all the pieces of plastic Garland's that I find, because I do find a lot of plastic garland pieces. So I want to gather all of those and kind of form a Christmas tree shape with that. So that will be out as long as I can find a lot of Carlin pieces. So I plan to do that. Other than that, I'll just probably continue what I'm doing and see how it goes. And if someone basically commission's work, then how long does it take you to kind of you know, turn that around? I know, it depends on what it is. It depends. Yes, it depends also on what I have going on at the moment, but it would be maybe a week or two. Sometimes it depends on like how quickly the frame can be made and all of that. And if I have the material already, then it's a lot quicker. But yeah, it takes two weeks max, I would say. And actually, I do want to point out that I actually only take I only make work based on order I don't have readily available. Yeah, I don't have a stock. Yeah, because I find that that probably creates more waste. And that will just keep building up and building up if it doesn't go to the beach and say where's all the waste?
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Exactly. So.
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Yes, yeah. So has that happened to you? Where you're like, okay, man, I'm not finding enough ways to let go.
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I actually can't wait for the day, you know, I relaxed.
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Oh, so you're doing lots of other stuff. You know, apart from all your this out? Yeah, I do try to keep busy with other stuff so that my lifestyle is sort of balance. Yeah, right. I remember you were telling me that you're right now working on restoring and revamping goals iconic Cultural Institute color Academy, right, which was obviously designed by Charles Correa, and it's home to so many great pieces. So you want to just tell us a little bit about the work that's happening there? And what are you doing whatever you can tell us? Yeah, all I can say is that the work is going really well. We're basically restoring the murals that they had there, were doing the same paintings that everyone knows and everyone loves. And everyone sort of grew up with the illusion sort of murals. So that's going on. And yeah, my knees are being taken up with that. But it's a lot of fun. And there's a great team of artists working on that. And that's basically all I can say actually. Yeah, no, that's cool. And we are all excited to see it again. Because Because all we see when we when we drive pastures is like it's all covered. And you're like what's happening
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now, so you can actually see some of the murals being painted. If you're driving us. Yeah. Oh, cool. Okay, that's nice. So check it out. Okay, nice. So where what's your Instagram and where can we find you? So my Instagram is my name. It's at Tamsin neurona. And you can find me there. Cool. All right. Now my next segment is the fun segment, which a lot of listeners look forward to. It's called the ouzo round, the rapid fire one. So I'll just, you know, throw quick questions at you. And you have to give me hopefully one word answers. Okay, so you read okay. Yes, yes. Okay, cool. So here's the use around. Alright. Thompson, your home Beach is in Dona Paula. But what's the what's another beach that you love and that you'd like? Maybe our listeners to visit? I would say Croatia? Am I allowed to say more than that? Because, you know, I do, please. Okay, so I went to Croatia recently. And it's absolutely amazing. The waters just so clear. The marine life is incredible. And it's just absolutely stunning. And I would love to visit again. I could keep going there. It's amazing. Any particular beach does it any name? Oh, well, I went to color very beach and that.
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Alright, okay, question two. So Arthur, you know, like I mentioned can uplift our experience in life. So who's your favorite gun artist? Well, I think growing up support Diego was always an inspiration because he made these larger than life sort of installations and photographed them and different things to do with go and it was always super interesting. And I grew up with his son so that so yeah, so that was Yeah, I do love to both and then there's another artist called rechercher Shilka. And she makes a
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Um, art, which it makes you feel really warm and cozy and like you're in Goa, so they're kind of cool and landscapes, and they're just absolutely stunning. Yeah, I mean, so both is of course doing some great stuff with Museum of war. And I think he's also got so many of these.
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What do we call them? Maybe live installations? Like he just did one with the Saudi one. Yeah. Yeah, some amazing stuff. Yeah, true. Cool. All right. Now, you also mentioned that you're into tracking and kayaking. So can you tell us a great place to go on a track and go, I would say definitely explore Vault Boy. It's absolutely stunning, because there's so many different places, and waterfalls and freshwater areas that you can swim in. And it's it's really, really fun. I go there as often as I can, because it's always a good time. I would say if you're not that familiar with the area, definitely get a guide because it's easy to get lost in those forests. But it's just stunning. I do recommend a place called servo them. Wow. Okay. Yeah, some of my family friends only go there for the casual Fany so now I go there for checking as well. Yes, yes. All right. Okay. Now, you know, one way to kind of understand a place or go is through the language, right? Because that's what connects us to it. So what's your favorite go one phrase or term that you that you might maybe like using? Well, actually, I know you use this term a lot. It's more gasunie. I really love this. How could you know how could one not because it's just, it's yeah, it's all about love. And I love that right? Oh, super great. What in life brings us to say, God? Well, I think it's my lifestyle. Currently, everything I'm doing basically makes me relaxed and makes me feel at home and myself basically going to the beach making art and hanging out with my dogs. That's yeah, that's what gives me so say God. Well, well, nicely said Yeah, I mean, what you do is brings you Segata I think that's what you Okay, great. Thompson. I mean, this was this was a great conversation and I think what you're doing is so different and thank you for making God beautiful and for shining the light on God's beaches in such a unique way. And I hope maybe you come beachcombing with you and maybe even do a workshop. Yes. Yeah, that'd be great. That would be great. Yes. Thank you so much, Clyde. Yeah, thank you and Maga yes
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