2.09 How Jolynn Carneiro is promoting slow fashion through 'Nonsense Curry'

Goa is an inspiration for playful creativity, and Jolynn Carneiro channels that into her brand ‘Nonsense Curry’, a quirky mix of slow fashion, repurposed crockery, and some feel-good tunes. 

From wearing skirts as wigs, to starting a successful business, Clyde takes us through the “nonsense” mind of Jolynn - her artistic inspirations, journey as an entrepreneur, and her thoughts on maintaining authenticity as a creator. What goes behind running a creative business? How to recharge yourself creatively as an artist? And how did a hand lotion become the inspiration of her song ‘Love & Banter’? 

Tune in to find out, and as a bonus, discover a refreshingly new way of drinking urrak!

Produced by Aishwarya Javalgekar
Sound edit by Kshitij Jadhav

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Hosted by Clyde D’Souza. He is a creative director who has worked in TV, print, and digital. His book Susegad: The Goan Art Of Contentment captures Goa through conversations, memories, stories, recipes and much more. He lives between Mumbai and Goa and lives the Susegad lifestyle every day! Follow him on Instagram @clydedsouzaauthor.

Transcript

Clyde D'Souza  00:09

Welcome to say God stories from Goa. There is glide de Souza take you deep into gua beyond the beaches and help you live and love the SUSE God lifestyle, no matter where you are. From slow and sustainable fashion to quirky pillows, original songs on the ukulele to making art from broken objects and dogs named Joe, Joe and more Joe Joe. My guest today is the quirky and immensely creative Yangon. Jolin Carneiro. Her business under the umbrella of nonsense curry is giving the design world a taste of things to come from GWAS next generation. Welcome to the Seagal stories from GWA podcast. Jolin.

00:59

Thank you for having me.

Clyde D'Souza  01:01

I'm really happy to have you. And I'm glad that I put this out on Women's Day, as opposed to saying that these are the some of the wonderful women I've interviewed. And, you know, I asked for suggestion. And I don't know if you know, Clive figure, though, but he's from Galway, he suggested your name. And then I looked you up and I was like, Wow. I mean, how could I have someone as amazing and wonderful as you so I'm really happy that, you know, that's how I kind of got the connection, and we can do this podcast.

01:27

Yeah. I'm glad that I'm part of this community. And it can't wait for us to discuss more about whatever you have in mind.

Clyde D'Souza  01:35

Yeah, there's a lot to discuss. So before we jump into all of that, what I generally like to do right is I like to give the listeners because this is the audio medium. I like to give them a sense of where and go, Oh, my guest is from so can you tell us where you're from and maybe describe your surroundings a bit.

01:50

So I've been born and brought up in Goa, and specifically in matzah. I call it the pusa land. And I've done my college, my school, my education. All of it here in Godself.

Clyde D'Souza  02:05

Okay, what's your surrounding like right now? Oh, bottom

02:09

trees. The almond trees? Yeah. So we have a bunch of them surrounding and hovering over our buildings. So yeah.

Clyde D'Souza  02:18

Nice. Okay, that's that's quite a nice.

02:21

Yeah. And they always fall off bats towards the, towards the night, obviously. And we get to see them up close, because it's pretty close to our window frame. So you can literally see them hanging and their mannerisms. And I love observing all these little tree creatures. So it's quite nice. The place that I'm living in.

Clyde D'Souza  02:41

Yeah, okay. That's quite nice. Batson bottoms. Yeah. All right now, so you wear so many hats. I mean, I was going through your entire profile, and there's so many things that you do. But the one thing that stood out for me right was commode use and brinjal. My listeners are wondering what the hell. What stood out to me most about you was your quirkiness in all of your products. They're so personal and quirky. And that's what I like to see in an artist. So thank you. When did you develop this aesthetic? quirky sense.

03:16

I think I've always been like this since I was a kid, which is why I always thought there was something wrong with me because I was always the one that did stuff a little differentiated from the rest of the group. So I guess it started from a very, very young age, I was always the one with the short hair, but wearing my skirt on my head. Like I have long hair, things like these. I don't know, I used to be my own little person. And I've continued being that little person that I am today.

Clyde D'Souza  03:47

Nice. Was it any artists or any writers? Did you read like Roald Dahl or Aesop's Fables or any of these guys that inspired you to be like that?

03:55

It's been my pop, it's always Oh, my pop like whatever I do today, if you meet him, he's such a unique guy. And I think I've kind of stepped in his footsteps as well. Because if you see his hair from his head towards clothing, it's so versatile. He doesn't care about what anyone has to say. He's a person who hates collars on his T shirts. So we'll make something more like a maternity gown, but not a gown. It would be like a short shirt without the collar to his Silverfox say that he keeps on the heel. He just lets it grow. But my mom hates that and always wants to like chop it off. And she keeps on saying what are people gonna say at Moz and you need to trim it a little bit here a little bit there. But he's his own boss. And with that confidence, I think I developed mine and continued being the person that I truly want to be instead of just cloning to be someone else.

Clyde D'Souza  04:51

Right. Nice. That is that is really interesting. So you kind of like absorbed his energy and now that's the energy that you're putting out into the world. Absolutely. eyes. Yeah, because even when I mean like, you know, there are so many products that one can buy, right? You can keep buying T shirts, makeup, hats, clothes, bags, whatever. And the thing that I think about when I'm buying any of these things is I'm not just buying a t shirt, but I'm kind of borrowing a person's energy. You know what I mean? And then it like changes my personality a little bit as well. Hopefully. Yeah, so when I looked at your thing, yeah, if I'm buying that brinjal pillow, it's it's making me feel different. You know what I mean? So yeah, so So now it's nice that you know that it's your dad who kind of was the let's say the son who kind of you know gave you that energy? Absolutely. What do you think of when you when you make are just give me like the origin story of the brinjal pillow.

05:45

So there's one thing that all my friends know about me and that is that I describe things in a very peculiar manner. So that was this one phase that I went through where I kept calling everyone brinjal saying you're such a brinjal? Or you're such a like, What is this nonsense carry? You know, it was just like stuff I used to see it was in my vernacular. And one day I decided, why don't I personify that phrase and put it down, you know, in a sketch. And that's literally what came out of my hand to describe what I mean when I say you're such a brinjal. And that was the first first product that we even created when I mounted that artwork on our coffee pillows, which is one of our best sellers today. And I like the fact that you could also relate to it because it's something that is offbeat, but you can still relate to it. It's not something which is in your vocabulary, probably but you still you can still relate to it and evokes happiness. So yeah, yeah.

Clyde D'Souza  06:45

Yeah. It's like it's like a unique few unique fingerprint of the artists, which and then then when they buy that they become part of your vernacular. And then hopefully they spread that big family. Yeah, lovely. Same. Same with como juice. Tell me a little bit more about that. I read it, and I found it super funny. But But yeah, tell my listeners.

07:05

So the response that I get from the community, some of the people think that I'm a little too eccentric, because I'm, I'm very transparent with the stuff I put out there. And poop is not something unusual. It's familiar to all of us. Yeah. And Komodo is something I would call a friend who is pretty annoying. But this is the best way I would describe it is if you want to say something gnarly or insult someone in a in a friendly way. It's like you're such a big oil, commode juice, or a bucket full of camo juice.

Clyde D'Souza  07:40

Nice. Okay, so it's an endearing term in many ways to someone who's annoying you, but it's a close friend that you would say that to?

07:47

Yeah, it's not. It never is with any ill intention. It's always just to go around. And you know, just take things a little lightly, basically, because everyone's so wound up and everyone's so date boxes. So just to kind of like break that. Yes, exactly.

Clyde D'Souza  08:07

Right. Nice. So now you're running for different verticals, the last time I checked. So the scurry creators, which is around kadhi weaves. Then there's curry house, which is around broken items, skin carry, which is slow fashion and cartoons, which are original songs right now, so many different things. What I want to ask you is that where do you kind of, you know, charge yourself to get all of this creativity from like, how do you, you know, recharge yourself, let's say,

08:37

I think it's a mix of watching a lot of movies, listening to a lot of tunes, as well as just indulging in nature. Like I told you about the bats and button trees. And I love being close to animals. And these are things that kind of spark little creative ideas in me. And I think a big big part has to do with cinema, Film and Music is one of my biggest sources of inspiration, from Wes Anderson to Gil Mo and Del Toro, these are such such inspiring directors and artists, as well as a lot of the music that I listened to uncover probably tunes and musicians that people have not even heard of. So they're like underdogs just getting out there. But their music is phenomenal. Compared to the newest stuff that you listen to that everyone knows about, which is everyone stick talks and reels, which is so so mind numbing. That's kind of steered away from completely. But I would say these are the two sources of my inspiration and creativity.

Clyde D'Souza  09:42

Nice I can see the Wes Anderson influence because you're in styles again, it's like totally lit and like there's so much of color. You know that you pay attention to which I guess is there in a lot of Wes Anderson movies as well. Yeah, so now now, cemetery and color Absolutely. Now With carry creatives, all your products are around kadhi weaves, right? And then you kind of embroider them with your art. Is that Is that correct?

10:07

So the thing is, I use a special powerloom weave, and you get different grades of cardi. So it took me years to figure out, which is the perfect grade of cardi in order to print the artworks on the on the on the fabric. So for our users, I use a technique of sublimation printing, which is a lot like T shirt printing, but it doesn't crack. So the Waitara use is a type t, for instance, how the best way I can describe it is a big checks in small checks. So the big checks would be a loose weave. And the small checks would be like a more tight and wound weave, which is what I used to mount the artworks on. So it's not embroidered, it's not hand painted. It's a sublimation print of the artworks that I create.

Clyde D'Souza  10:54

Wow, nice. And these are like this clothes. And then there are like pillows, there are bags, all of these, what are the different kinds of products that are there.

11:02

So we have a line of clothing. And I believe in having staples where people can mix and match and it doesn't it's gender fluid. So it's unisex. And anyone can wear these pieces because our trench coats or high waisted pants, they're all such versatile pieces that anyone can wear. So that's I mean, the clothing line had that concept in mind. Apart from that we have a range of products like pillows, cushion covers, pillowcases, bags, Granny bosses, phone cases, and a whole bunch of stuff. Because we also personalize and customization, where recently I made a knife kit for a chef or I made a apron for a guy who owns a food cart in the UK. So it's like a bunch of different workflow things I don't stick to just the in house stuff.

Clyde D'Souza  11:52

Right. And one of your businesses now It reminds me of this Japanese art of Kintsugi. I don't know if you've heard of it, which is basically repairing broken pottery. And sometimes they do it with, you know, with gold. Right, so So curry house 101 does something like that, right, I mean, one of your verticals, which is making art from broken pieces. So that I thought was a very nice way of kind of sustaining and upcycling, let's say things that you know, may have broken, but they might have some memory to them. And you can kind of bring them to life again, it's like resurrecting them literally, right? Exact. So yeah. Tell me a bit about about what what all products you have under that, and what are you What have you done under that,

12:32

since we advocate sustainability, I teach people on how you can be resourceful with the stuff that you already own. So for instance, if you have a chip to dinner plate, you can use that if it has a really nice design on it, you can use that as a window cell display, or you can use it as a wall or cluster wall art display. So just because it's broken, just because it's stone, that doesn't mean you need to throw it out, you can just pick up a few nifty skills of learning how to mend, you're learning how to use a glue, which is pretty much you know, any Harry POM creature will be. So it's just about that extra effort. And the whole reason we even doing all of this is so that we can take off the weight of landfills. And, you know, just kind of extend the shelf life of off different items. Because a very, very common word and and freeze that a lot of people do is throw it out. What do you want to do is throw it out? Yeah. So as long as it's not in your home, it's none of your concern. And that's a mentality that really, really needs to break. Right. And I think with our tools of photography and storytelling, I'm able to persuade people and show them the beauty and potential in broken items. How you can refurbish, and you know, just be resourceful with the stuff that you have.

Clyde D'Souza  13:56

Yeah, so do you put this out on do you show them how to do this on like YouTube or your Instagram or something like that? Like, how does someone come across it?

14:04

Yeah, all of this is on our platform on Instagram. We were trying to make our way to YouTube slowly so that we can break down the process, but it's always in written matter because I love to write. And my storytelling is more written than audio based. Okay, so there's a lot of like, written information on the same about all of these things on our platform.

Clyde D'Souza  14:25

Right. Okay. Now, obviously, we are seeing a lot of development and growth in terms of businesses in Goa, not just tourism, but also lots of other businesses like yours, for instance, right? And art places and restaurants. So what has been your family background? If you could tell us like what were you like, Was your dad I knew I know, you've mentioned that your dad was a very strong, you know, inspiration for you. But how did you get into you know, launching a business.

14:52

Again, it all boils down to my Bob because he was actually a radio officer on the ship back in the day. And because his family like my nanny, and by war in my village or cosign, he decided to take care of them and take care of the family. So he did a wonderful decision and decided to quit his job come down and start his own business, which has been around for 20 plus years here and mops are itself. And that's the space that we operate from as well. I've taken up a little island of the store and set up my merchandise as well. So he started off with close to furniture to crockery. And that's when the demand was really high when it was hand painted crockery. Okay, it's so crazy because it's done, literally done a full circle. When I'm I go to people's houses at very random places, I see those pieces in those homes. And nobody else I know, back in the day had those pieces because it was only sourced from my dad's store. And they're very peculiar, you can say they're all handmade. They're all handmade pieces that he used to probably outsource from Bombay and across the country. And I still remember back in the day, when my brother and I were really small, we still literally go on the rickety Karumba bus to Bombay. And he used to get those big boxes, some of them would break. So it was like a whole thing. But he definitely definitely worked really hard. And I have been absorbed observing and absorbing all of this through out my life. So the whole business front comes from him again, and also my mum's mum. So my grand mom, she's a seamstress. She probably got married at the age of 1819 and went for a singles course. And she's 8384 years old now. But she still teaches how other students how to sew. Wow. So I think she would be another form of inspiration because she taught my mom who then taught me and I started sewing as well.

Clyde D'Souza  16:57

Wow. So it all runs in the family. Kind of Yeah. Great. So I think your your dad shop is called Carneiro for frontier. Yes. Right. Okay. Wow. So in that scene maps are like near the market, is it?

17:12

It's bank opposite the police station? The market?

Clyde D'Souza  17:15

Okay. Okay, cool. Everybody talks about the great highs about business and starting a business but can you tell me like one high and also one real low that you faced, you know, when when, when running your business? Yeah, I

17:27

think I've gone through a bunch of hurdles. And I, I'm pretty transparent about that as well. Because starting a new business is something very exciting. You don't know how it's gonna turn out whether it's gonna completely dropped to the floor, or whether it's gonna, you know, scale up. So unfortunately, I started my business right when the whole D monetization happened and hit. So I thought, you know, that's going to be a bust. But that's the same year I participated for my first popper up in Belgium. And it was such a great response. I still remember my first buy was of this lady who owns a squirrel and one of my pillows said sneaky little speck of life art. She bought that little pillow for her squirrel and I will never forget that memory. My first bite, I think my pillow back then went for about 350 400 bucks. And that's before I knew the market. Before I knew anything about business. I just went with my gut instinct. Wow. But I'm so glad that I'm fortunate rather that the response was great. Because in my head who would want to buy a pillow that says poop on it? Or?

Clyde D'Souza  18:41

Screw? Yeah, but unbelievably, there were

18:45

other Mad Hatter's out there just like me who would actually buy stuff like this? Yeah. So. So honestly, that that was the high point. But I think the low point would be not a low point, but a learning curve. Rather. There are so many segments under my it's an umbrella term, right? So we do a bunch of things. So to kind of navigate this and explain it to an audience is definitely a feat to kind of achieve, right because people think I'm probably just a designer or I'm a model, which I'm not, by the way, not a model. So I have to keep explaining to people that I'm a creative director I choreograph shoots and I style so it's a lot of explaining to do right um, I think that is because it's a new concept like sustainability is a new concept with a lot of people have not grasped Yeah, they probably think it's just secondhand something which is old and raggedy. So I'm kind of breaking all of these misconceptions. And another low or learning curve is saying no to easy money.

19:48

Hmm. That's a good one. Yeah.

19:51

Yeah. So it's just a matter of principle and I'm super super strict about who I collaborate with what their principles and eat Most of their brands are about, for instance, I do not collaborate with any fast fashion brands because they hurt the planet at the end of the day. As well as I've had, I'm not going to label brands but I've had big bad brands approached me. Like I said, saying no to easy money pinches you, but it's a matter of principles. So I think these are the, the pockets where I kind of have to suffer that It's too, too extreme word, but it's kind of like sacrificing your sacrifice to make a point and stick to your, to your principle in order to make a difference. Wow, I guess these are my highs and lows. Yeah.

Clyde D'Souza  20:41

That's very cool. Okay, so now one of the things that's mostly a high for people is music. And again, another business or vertical that you have is scary tunes, right. And I've just recently like, I think, since the pandemic started learning the ukulele. And I saw that on one of your YouTubers, few videos that you have in which you're playing the ukulele. So you want to tell us what the songs are about? And what's the inspiration for the songs generally? Or do you have certain themes, topics? And where are you taking cartoons?

21:11

So I have big plans for carry tunes, but I believe that if I speak about it, it won't happen. So or to that I need to say stay tuned. But But so far, what I've showcased is covers unto I think to about two or three originals. Right? They've they're literally, for instance, I think one of them is glistening stars, and the other one is loving bando. It's literally a

Clyde D'Souza  21:39

bento if I'm not mistaken. It's about lotion. And the smell of the lotion. Again, I was reading I was like, Okay, this is gonna be about love. And you're like, Okay, it's about segments and about Yeah, it is it is it is the smell reminds you of the comfort. Again, I like I like the quirkiness in it. So

22:03

I'm glad so yeah, loving boundary is about a hand lotion. So I love putting anything feel good to me into my content. So I remember this really good phase in my life, where a friend actually gifted me this lotion, and every time I smelled that lotion, and it reminds me of that good memory. So I created a song, love and banter around that, but none of the lyrics say that. But that's the actual explanation. Explanation to that song. Oglesby stars is laying on the beach, on the rocks, and just looking at the stars, which is one of the most spectacular views and just being just being in the moment. So it's just very feel good. Gentle tunes. And words just feel good stuff, basically. And that I also cover a lot of songs. And again, it's like underdogs people that probably haven't heard of these tunes. But again, the music friend comes from my brother and from my dad, who has taught me all the oldies. He's the guy who knows how to play the guitar. I'm just dabbling with mine. Sometimes it doesn't even sound tune, but I'm trying. It's my first instrument that I've ever dabbled with. But yeah, everything with curry tunes is just to make you feel better than you already are feeling.

Clyde D'Souza  23:33

Yeah, music generally tends to do that. So that's, I'm sure you will do it, we'll do well. Now, as we all know, we're all stuck in social media planet. And sometimes it can feel like a real pain in the butt. But also, lots of people use it to their advantage, it helps people reach out with their businesses and all of that, and your in store, as they say is lit. So tell me like how have you used your social media to your advantage and, but at the same time, not getting sucked into the complete black hole that social media can be.

24:06

So as you said, social media can really be a pain in the ass and a very, very dangerous to for young adults, and also full grown men and women. And that's because just because people are so insecure with who they are, instead of working on themselves, they're more fixated on how they're supposed to be, or how they can live up to so and so lifestyle rather than just focusing on themselves. So on the personal front, I think it's very, very toxic to do. But if you are confident about yourself, you can actually take it and use it as a tool to your advantage because it does reach a wider demographic and although for me I would say that I always try things differently and I never resort to trend worthy anything for that matter. So for instance, Instagram If you want to reach somewhere you need to resort to using the trending news. And that's something I do not resort or succumb to at all. On the contrary, I try to not try to but it's just creating authentic stuff, I create a mood, I use tracks from James Newton from blood diamond, you know, just to create like a whole cinematic experience to my reels. Rather than just being about transitions and wearing something and switching from one topic to another. I have like a lot of storytelling in my views, so that you can jump into my portal and into my eyes and into my walls to see how I envision things. So in a way, it does help you reach a wider demographic, like you can even reach out to people you kind of look up to. And for instance, the same underdog artists that I was talking about in terms of music, audio, I reached out to one of them, and they were nice enough to correspond. oh nine. So when Yeah, so when it comes to networking, it's a great platform, but you need to be very, very careful with your mental health when it comes to social media.

Clyde D'Souza  26:10

Yeah, I think you've kind of answered my question in a way is that basically, you just you're just being authentic to yourself. And what I'm noticing is that you'd like to kind of pull people into your world into your inspirations, right?

26:21

Yeah, absolutely. And I wanted, I want to tell people, and we always advocate to work on what matters is working from the inside out. Because on social media, everyone looks the same. Everyone's trying to clone themselves. There's no sense of individuality. There's no sense of self. There's no self retrospection, or self actualization. It's just about how you can imitate the next best thing. Correct. And that's really sad because young viewers when we were 10, and 11 years old, we were not exposed to social media. We were just busy being our own little people. Correct. In our own little was like I said, me wearing a skirt as a as a wig. Right. You know, we were just so drawn and being present. And I think we genuinely had better childhoods than this generation, the younger generation. True. Yeah, it's just digitalized. It's not tangible. Nobody's actually making memories. In fact, there's a lot of mental health and issues that have arisen because of social media. Absolutely.

Clyde D'Souza  27:23

Yeah. So I mean, one thing that I have done right now, because it's Lent. So along with giving up, you know, non veg alcohol, I also said, let me give up Twitter, because Twitter was my thing, which I would just go on, you know, the whole day. So do you, like do anything like that? Where you like, you know, limit your time on social media? Have you tried any of that? Or you'd like, no, that's something that's under control.

27:44

I think that I am so I'm very, I discipline myself, I'm a very disciplined person. So no matter what I use as a tool, I am very conscious about what I'm doing. For instance, my work relies me to be on social media to put up my content or whatever it is. But at the same time, I won't get sucked into the realm of if someone else, you know, a lot of people try to compare lives, about their social lives about this and that, and that's when things start to get toxic. You should be able to the minute that starts happening, pull out, that's my advice to anyone. Because everyone wants to paint a rosy picture on the exterior when every single family household person has across to bear the end up and is going through their own struggles. So nobody puts out the dirty laundry. Everyone wants to show the rosy picture. And that, unfortunately affects a lot of people. Because then they start comparing lives. So like I said, it's a super dangerous tool. But I do discipline myself when I need to be on social media. I'm there. I'm honestly there more for the memes.

Clyde D'Souza  28:53

The fun lighter part of it.

28:57

Yeah, so that's about how you look at it. Also at the end.

Clyde D'Souza  29:00

I think I think some of your products themselves could be memes. So

29:05

good. Should bank on that. Yeah, yeah, you should.

Clyde D'Souza  29:07

Yeah, maybe meme curry next. Coming soon, scary means Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Now, so as a young entrepreneur, what would be like your advice that you would want to give someone who's maybe thinking of launching something on their own? What would be some? Again, I know you don't give cookie cutter answers. So which is great. So yeah, what's your advice?

29:30

So this is one thing that I've learned and it's boiler proof stuff is that when you say stay consistent with something, it can be anything, it can be the most lousiest piece of shit literally. But if you're consistent with that craft, with that concept, if you're just consistent with it, it pays off. Nice hard work pays off. If you're on it, you will get results. That's one thing I learned, because there was a time where I was still trying to figured out. This is right after college still trying to figure out what I need to do. Since I was so passionate about a bunch of things, photography, fashion, this that I just didn't know which to tap into first, the minute I started putting the work in the military and started putting the effort and my hours on end, and just pulling myself self out of out of a social setting and focusing on myself. Immediately I saw results. And I kept at it for the past seven to 10 years I kept at it.

Clyde D'Souza  30:29

Well keep at it. So that's your that's your model, keep

30:33

consistent. Yes, keep at it. Consistency is the key grid.

Clyde D'Souza  30:37

So what is the next thing for nonsensically? are you what are your new projects? And who are you collaborating with to give us a sneak peek?

30:44

So at the moment, I'm actually shifting to a new space. So which is such a skin peeling experience, because you want to set up quickly, but it takes so I'm in the process of doing that. But I'm going to continue on my journey of what I've been doing. And I I have big plans, things are already in the works. But I never dish that out before it actually happens and materializes. Because I've tried that website where I used to speak about it and put it out in the universe and never worked out. So stick to all of that. Yeah. All right.

Clyde D'Souza  31:17

All right. Keep it under wraps, and we'll see it on your install or on your website or someplace like that. Yeah, great. Okay. Now, what would Julian like to be remembered for?

31:28

I think I would love to know that I made a difference in a positive way that I was able to change at least one person's life in a positive way that I was able to probably give them some advice or just infuse positive anything habits to inculcate better ideologies to live a better and slow mindful conscious lifestyle. If I'm leaving that impact, and that Mark, I'm more than content, that's all I want.

Clyde D'Souza  31:58

Nice. Okay. That's well said. Now, as a young entrepreneur, who has kind of, you know, launched her own businesses was quite successful, has this quirky aesthetic sense? GWA. Right, now we're seeing a lot of change, right. And now you're part of it, you're affecting it, you're producing, you're creating your own world within GWA. So what do you think should be the future of GWA? How do you see that?

32:22

Unfortunately, because we rely on to resume a lot of things have shapeshifted Lamperti. And not in a good way at all, a lot of people are just getting annoyed with all of these things. Yeah, I think people just should just be a little conscious about their next steps. Because a lot of people are just selling out, honestly, with regards to a lot of things with their values, everything just selling out in it is bouncing, right? It's sad to see that when we can establish ourselves and make something out of ourselves here and I'm, I'm a walking talking example that you can make a life in goal, you have people migrate, you have people just kind of leaving it up to the local, I mean, not the local politicians, which are not doing anything. So it's about standing your ground, it's about sticking to your values. And just standing standing your ground, basically, because what's happening, like I said, is everyone's leaving, everyone's passing. And we have like a lot of migrant workers and people from elsewhere taking up our jobs, you're right, the locals job, and they don't really have an option. But at the same time, people don't want to take on these things. So they rather migrate and have like a better income. Right? So you have to know how to make a life with the resources you have. Like it's it's, it's awesome to see how people from lower backgrounds is sort of like a Catholic place and actually are doing really well. You know, for a fact that they want to survive, and they're doing it with a passion and they make it right. These are people that I look up to and I genuinely appreciate. Right. And I think that a lot of people should look into that and introspect,

Clyde D'Souza  34:03

right. I think I think well, I mean, to summarize what you're saying is stand your ground and create your own nonsense. Go on nonsense. Yeah, cool. So okay, now on to my really fun segment. A lot of listeners like it. It's called the ouzo round for the rapid fire round where ask you these quick questions. And you know, hopefully you give me one word one line answers. Cool. So are we are we ready? Yes, let's go. Alright. Okay, so who is your favorite designer? So I have

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a lot of artists and designers that I follow on social media. At the top of my head, it's Alexander Wang for his loose silhouettes, his gender fluid, garments, and shoes and concepts. Like him. There are so many others that I cannot really get at the top of my hand. I would say Alexandra one.

Clyde D'Souza  34:53

Okay, nice. All right. What's your favorite nonsense go and word or phrase or term?

34:59

I think it Take like another round like one more mango cocktail possible. Okay.

Clyde D'Souza  35:05

All right. Okay, that's that's quite nice. Yeah. All right. Oh, what's going song that you like to sing or one of your favorite go on songs.

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So there's a whole story behind that, but I'm sure a lot of guys have heard of the movie on Channel sheep. Yeah. And this happens to be my partner's grandfather. Who is the famous Anthony Mendes. Wow. And one of his songs was got so good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. his granddad was the artist and that went down to his dad as well. Who was the artist? Do you

Clyde D'Souza  35:42

remember how it goes? Ah,

35:44

we had it in the garage. It's about how does it go? How does it go?

Clyde D'Souza  35:49

Best Eragon song Good luck with that one. Yeah,

35:56

yep, yep.

Clyde D'Souza  35:59

Nice. So Wow. So your partner's grandfather was the singer of the song he composed?

36:05

He I believe he directed the movie as well. And right, Anthony Mendes. Okay.

Clyde D'Souza  36:11

Wow, that's quite cool. Alright, who's Okay, my next question Who is your most quirky going?

36:16

So if you meet my partner he is he is actually a very quirky guy. If you meet him, he's not on social media. He's He's nowhere on those platforms. But just as a person. I call him like the human rango. The movie rango. The skinny, who is a cowboy. So when I met him, he literally looked like that, like this malnourished lizard with big eyes, but just his mannerisms and how he is as a person. Like a lot of people asked him why didn't you follow your dad's footsteps and become a theatrics. But that's not his forte. He's just about making memories and he loves making people love. I think that's how we kind of balance each other out as well. Because I'm more of what I'm serious. I'm serious, and I want to like, get good. And he kind of, you know, just lightens up man, when he does this. He has this effect on people. I think he would actually be the most quirky person I've come across.

Clyde D'Souza  37:12

Lovely. That's That sounds great. Yeah. Okay, who's your what is your favorite offbeat place to go within GWA

37:19

I think agonda is pretty sweet spot because it's not infiltrated by tourists yet. But it's got beautiful restaurants like cook coffee. This is one of our go to places and they have a lot of kayaking options for like super reasonable rates. Right. So and also one of my really good friends Danny, he owns a cafe down South Col ma petite, fresh my little brother and they have the best breakfast dishes there. Okay, so we have like a whole routine. If you head into the south, we take our four babies switch and head to the cafe get a meal, get probably a tally and one of the local joints and of course the fresh rock.

Clyde D'Souza  38:02

Which is in season right now.

38:05

Yes, exactly. It's awesome. And people really need to try it with basil soda and some mango juice. It's again okay.

Clyde D'Souza  38:12

I've always tried it with the typical the classic, you know, soda and Limca and lime and chili. But I think I'm gonna give what you suggested a try. So you're saying mint and mango and soda as well as its?

38:23

Yes, basil. It just is such a refreshing it just takes it up a notch.

Clyde D'Souza  38:29

Okay, I'll give it a give it a shot. Yeah. Okay, so now. All right. And finally, what brings you say God, ah,

38:38

I think um, I try to stay away from commercial stuff, if that makes sense in terms of work. I like being present and just exuding the stuff that I'm learning throughout the day to my day to day which is why I I call myself a slow lifestyle designer, because everything is slow paced living in the moment. I think that's what brings me peace. Anything beyond that would just give me a lot of anxiety and stress. And I surround myself with people who have the same who are on the same wavelength. This one greeters spotters, animal lovers, just being surrounded by feel good people is what brings me a lot of safeguard.

Clyde D'Souza  39:25

Lovely, great. Okay, now as promised or as hoped, maybe you can sing us a couple of lines from love and bento glistening stars.

39:34

Oh, okay, cool weed. How does it go?

39:37

That day after sundown? Laying on the wrong lane on her. Body, buddy. Lie jelly fish molding in the reds. Looking at the stars, curing up dish No. and No re listening. Stop listening stop.

Clyde D'Souza  40:11

Whoa, Yep, that was beautiful. We had some slight percussion in the background, but that was fine we should have just asked her to do it to the tune, but no worries it sounded it sounded great and I'm sure your your tunes will bring so say God to many people. So that's good. Alright Jolin thank you for coming on to the podcast. It was fun, invigorating, quirky nonsense everything that I expected it to be. And I love your answers are so authentic and I think what you're bringing is your own energy to everything that you do. So that's great, and it's a much needed voice on the go and landscape. And I hope all your nonsense energy is welcomed by everyone everywhere. I'm going to buy my brinjal pillow hopefully soon. And I hope others do too. Along maybe with some commode juice something or the other.

41:02

Awesome. Thank you so much for having me. This was great. And I'm also glad that you're doing this for our community and shedding light on the different people and artists that we have. Because there's so much talent in Guam as well and thank you for having me on board. Thanks Jolin

Clyde D'Souza  41:17

for being on so cigar stories from Guam and Moga so what

41:20

do you do take care cheers

Clyde D'Souza  41:24

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